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X Space 10-27-24

Space: https://x.com/shawmakesmagic/status/1850609680558805422

00:00:00 - Opening

  • Co-hosts: Shaw and Jin
  • Purpose: Structured FAQ session about AI16Z and DegenAI
  • Format: Pre-collected questions followed by audience Q&A

00:06:40 - AI16Z vs DegenAI Relationship Q: What's the difference between AI16Z and DegenAI? A:

  • ai16z: DAO-based investment vehicle, more PvE focused, community driven
  • DegenAI: Individual trading agent, PvP focused, more aggressive strategy
  • Both use same codebase but different personalities
  • DAO is a large holder of DegenAI
  • Management fees (1%) used to buy more DegenAI
  • Carry fees reinvested in DegenAI
  • Projects intentionally interlinked but serve different purposes

00:10:45 - Trust Engine Mechanics Q: How does the trust engine work? A:

  • Users share contract addresses with confidence levels
  • System tracks recommendation performance
  • Low conviction recommendations = low penalty if wrong
  • High conviction failures severely impact trust score
  • Historical performance tracked for trust calculation
  • Trust scores influence agent's future decision-making

00:21:45 - Technical Infrastructure Q: Where do the agents live? A:

  • Currently: Test servers and local development
  • Future: Trusted Execution Environment (TEE)
  • Partnership with TreasureDAO for infrastructure
  • Goal: Fully autonomous agents without developer control
  • Private keys generated within TEE for security

00:34:20 - Trading Implementation Q: When will Mark start trading? A:

  • Three phase approach:
  1. Testing tech infrastructure
  2. Virtual order book/paper trading
  3. Live trading with real assets
  • Using Jupiter API for swaps
  • Initial focus on basic trades before complex strategies
  • Trading decisions based on community trust scores

00:54:15 - Development Status Q: Who's building this? A:

  • Open source project with multiple contributors
  • Key maintainers: Circuitry, Nate Martin
  • Community developers incentivized through token ownership
  • Focus on reusable components and documentation

01:08:35 - AI Model Architecture Q: What models power the agents? A:

  • DegenAI: Llama 70B
  • Using Together.xyz for model marketplace
  • Continuous fine-tuning planned
  • Different personalities require different model approaches
  • Avoiding GPT-4 due to distinct "voice"

01:21:35 - Ethics Framework Q: What ethical guidelines are being followed? A:

  • Rejecting traditional corporate AI ethics frameworks
  • Focus on community-driven standards
  • Emphasis on transparency and open source
  • Goal: Multiple competing approaches rather than single standard
  • Priority on practical utility over theoretical ethics

01:28:30 - Wrap-up

  • Discord: AI16z.vc
  • Future spaces planned with DAOs.fun team
  • Focus on responsible growth
  • Community engagement continuing in Discord

The space emphasized technical implementation details while addressing community concerns about governance, ethics, and practical functionality.